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		<title>By: New W3C Widgets 1.0 Drafts &#124; Widgets Lab</title>
		<link>http://www.widgetslab.com/2007/07/10/w3c-widgets-10-requirements/comment-page-1/#comment-340685</link>
		<dc:creator>New W3C Widgets 1.0 Drafts &#124; Widgets Lab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 04:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the road for a final Widgets 1.0 Document, over a year from first intentions and 9 months since i first reported about this when i was starting my stint here at [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Avatar</title>
		<link>http://www.widgetslab.com/2007/07/10/w3c-widgets-10-requirements/comment-page-1/#comment-77282</link>
		<dc:creator>Avatar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 06:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you have understood correctly what i meant, and you have put into more technical terms, but i think it still can be done, the only question is the how to justificate putting it as a standard, and in what measure of course.

Abut the e-mails, sure, i will follow your blog and will think in how to expose things better and also thing of more specific case of use you can work with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you have understood correctly what i meant, and you have put into more technical terms, but i think it still can be done, the only question is the how to justificate putting it as a standard, and in what measure of course.</p>
<p>Abut the e-mails, sure, i will follow your blog and will think in how to expose things better and also thing of more specific case of use you can work with.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcos Caceres</title>
		<link>http://www.widgetslab.com/2007/07/10/w3c-widgets-10-requirements/comment-page-1/#comment-76397</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcos Caceres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 01:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm sorry Avatar, I'm still not fully understanding what you mean:( However, what you are hinting at is interesting and I would really like to hear more. Once you write up some use cases please email me so we can continue to discuss this. 

From what I understand from above you are asking for (1) a widget render context (window) to be able to dynamically grow its width and height? And (2) some kind of base color palette? 

In case I've understood 1 correctly, this should already be allowed by the spec. In the case of 2, every device displays color differently and I'm not sure that having a color palette would be much help to creating widgets that blend well with their surroundings.  

Mobile phone screens are able to display more and more colors every year (eg. the iPhone)
For example, most modern phones can reproduce 65,000, LG's Prada can do 256,000 colors, and Nokia's N95 can reproduce 16.7 million colors, i think. The DPI of screens is also rapidly increasing (eg. iPhone's 160 dpi), which poses further problems for developers. The w3c has quite a few activities looking at how to overcome these problems, particularly the the Ubiquitous and Mobile Web initiatives and the Device Independence Working Group and CSS Working Group.  
  
Also, color theory states that colors appear as they do because of the colors they have next to them. So people could mix whatever palette you give them and still create a design that does not work well (especially if you can control what color sits next to the widget). 

Regarding time frame: the iPhone brought a bit of seismic shift to mobile widgets, and so has the rapid emergence of the mobile widgets market over the last 6 months. We are investigating the mobility issues right now. However, we hope to have this all wrapped up by sometime in between 2008-2009.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry Avatar, I&#8217;m still not fully understanding what you mean:( However, what you are hinting at is interesting and I would really like to hear more. Once you write up some use cases please email me so we can continue to discuss this. </p>
<p>From what I understand from above you are asking for (1) a widget render context (window) to be able to dynamically grow its width and height? And (2) some kind of base color palette? </p>
<p>In case I&#8217;ve understood 1 correctly, this should already be allowed by the spec. In the case of 2, every device displays color differently and I&#8217;m not sure that having a color palette would be much help to creating widgets that blend well with their surroundings.  </p>
<p>Mobile phone screens are able to display more and more colors every year (eg. the iPhone)<br />
For example, most modern phones can reproduce 65,000, LG&#8217;s Prada can do 256,000 colors, and Nokia&#8217;s N95 can reproduce 16.7 million colors, i think. The DPI of screens is also rapidly increasing (eg. iPhone&#8217;s 160 dpi), which poses further problems for developers. The w3c has quite a few activities looking at how to overcome these problems, particularly the the Ubiquitous and Mobile Web initiatives and the Device Independence Working Group and CSS Working Group.  </p>
<p>Also, color theory states that colors appear as they do because of the colors they have next to them. So people could mix whatever palette you give them and still create a design that does not work well (especially if you can control what color sits next to the widget). </p>
<p>Regarding time frame: the iPhone brought a bit of seismic shift to mobile widgets, and so has the rapid emergence of the mobile widgets market over the last 6 months. We are investigating the mobility issues right now. However, we hope to have this all wrapped up by sometime in between 2008-2009.</p>
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		<title>By: Web Strategy by Jeremiah &#187; Widgets, a viable Web Marketing Strategy</title>
		<link>http://www.widgetslab.com/2007/07/10/w3c-widgets-10-requirements/comment-page-1/#comment-75920</link>
		<dc:creator>Web Strategy by Jeremiah &#187; Widgets, a viable Web Marketing Strategy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 02:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] There&#8217;s an interesting program by the W3C to standardize widgets. Makes sense. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: StickiWidgets &#187; Blog Archive &#187; W3C Widgets 1.0 Requirements Updated</title>
		<link>http://www.widgetslab.com/2007/07/10/w3c-widgets-10-requirements/comment-page-1/#comment-75794</link>
		<dc:creator>StickiWidgets &#187; Blog Archive &#187; W3C Widgets 1.0 Requirements Updated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) updated the Widgets 1.0 Requirements document a few days ago. The document is a good read and widgets standardizations would be a nice move. We like the direction this is going and in particular we like what Marcos Caceres (editor of the requirements spec) had to say in a comment posted over at Widgets Lab. &#8220;I don’t think it should be the w3c’s place to tell designers or widget vendors what widgets should look like, but, instead, instead, the w3c should specify the tools developers need to create awesome looking/functioning widgets.&#8221; - Marcos Caceres [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) updated the Widgets 1.0 Requirements document a few days ago. The document is a good read and widgets standardizations would be a nice move. We like the direction this is going and in particular we like what Marcos Caceres (editor of the requirements spec) had to say in a comment posted over at Widgets Lab. &#8220;I don’t think it should be the w3c’s place to tell designers or widget vendors what widgets should look like, but, instead, instead, the w3c should specify the tools developers need to create awesome looking/functioning widgets.&#8221; - Marcos Caceres [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Avatar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Avatar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 06:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, Thanks for stopping by Marcos, i welcome your visit with a "Hola, como estas?".

Now, what i mean for minimum customization requirements, don`t really has to do with the design and the proper aesthetic of the widgers per se, what i mean is having a minimum set of options for the widgets,and can be very much resumed to 2 simple things:

Broad Adjustable size and Color palette.

And those are for the simple reason that, with those 2 things as a standard, it would be very easy to make a widget Blend with anything.

But, i will edit the post to clarify what i meant with that part.

Once again, thanks for stopping by.

P.S:, when do you think the Final draft will be done?, i was right with "this year" ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, Thanks for stopping by Marcos, i welcome your visit with a &#8220;Hola, como estas?&#8221;.</p>
<p>Now, what i mean for minimum customization requirements, don`t really has to do with the design and the proper aesthetic of the widgers per se, what i mean is having a minimum set of options for the widgets,and can be very much resumed to 2 simple things:</p>
<p>Broad Adjustable size and Color palette.</p>
<p>And those are for the simple reason that, with those 2 things as a standard, it would be very easy to make a widget Blend with anything.</p>
<p>But, i will edit the post to clarify what i meant with that part.</p>
<p>Once again, thanks for stopping by.</p>
<p>P.S:, when do you think the Final draft will be done?, i was right with &#8220;this year&#8221; ?</p>
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		<title>By: Marcos Caceres</title>
		<link>http://www.widgetslab.com/2007/07/10/w3c-widgets-10-requirements/comment-page-1/#comment-75654</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcos Caceres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 04:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Avatar, I'm the editor of the widget req spec. I'm glad to hear that you think the spec is going in the right direction, but I'm a little confused as to what you mean by a Minimum Look Customization Requirements? 

If you mean that we should specify a base look and feel for widgets, then I'm not sure if that is such a good idea. Firstly, widget vendors already provide aesthetic guidelines for widgets that developers should follow, and each vendor has it's on set of requirements (see in particular apple's, microsoft's, and Yahoo!'s guidelines for widget development). Also, aesthetic models continuously change and new ones emerge (eg. the new iPhone aesthetic). I don't think it should be the w3c's place to tell designers or widget vendors what widgets should look like, but, instead, instead, the w3c should specify the tools developers need to create awesome looking/functioning widgets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Avatar, I&#8217;m the editor of the widget req spec. I&#8217;m glad to hear that you think the spec is going in the right direction, but I&#8217;m a little confused as to what you mean by a Minimum Look Customization Requirements? </p>
<p>If you mean that we should specify a base look and feel for widgets, then I&#8217;m not sure if that is such a good idea. Firstly, widget vendors already provide aesthetic guidelines for widgets that developers should follow, and each vendor has it&#8217;s on set of requirements (see in particular apple&#8217;s, microsoft&#8217;s, and Yahoo!&#8217;s guidelines for widget development). Also, aesthetic models continuously change and new ones emerge (eg. the new iPhone aesthetic). I don&#8217;t think it should be the w3c&#8217;s place to tell designers or widget vendors what widgets should look like, but, instead, instead, the w3c should specify the tools developers need to create awesome looking/functioning widgets.</p>
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